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    harrison
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    Hello Saurabh
    I guess there are a few challenges
    The first is how you measure the LED intensity with the spectrometer. In practice the spectrometer is at 90 degrees to the LED path so you only get a particularly good signal if there is something in the way (i.e. a test tube with media/cells) to scatter light into the spectrometer. Otherwise, what you are measuring is somehow the random internal reflections in the device which may be very sensitive to geometry. What I’d reocmmend is making some cloudy solution as your standard “scatterer” and then using this in all reactors.

    Second, yes, there are sources of variability in both the LED output and the spectrometer. Probably the largest amount of this comes from small changes in alignment made during assembly when the lens is glued to the LED and the spectrometer is soldered in place. There is also variability in the individual LED emitters and spectrometer, which are off the shelf parts so there is nothing we can really do about this. We try tocalibrate this variation out for fluorescence measurements by doing the ratiometric measurement as you stated, but in your case you need a constant ABSOLUTE amount of light. I’d start by doing the above (standard scattering solution) and seeing how different it is, but if the answer is still “not good enough” then ultimately what you may need is to buy an off-the-shelf light meter that can be inserted into the top of the device so you can have a consistent measurement across reactors. This way you will know exactly the light output and have the same sensor for each (i.e. not using potentially variable AS7341 chips) to have the best possible calibration. You can get cheap light meters for <100 USD usually which are probably more than good enough to do the trick.

    #1536
    saurabhmalani
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    I see, you are right the 90 degree angle does add some concerns. In your paper, in the supplementary Figure S13 (Image Link: https://ibb.co/bJZptgr), if you still recall haha, how did you get that data? Did you use a ‘scattering’ solution of sorts like you suggest or was it just the naive readout of an empty reactor? If this data was collected from just an empty reactor, perhaps that may indeed be sufficient enough to give a decent calibration, though you’re right that using a scattering solution would likely be more rigorous.

    Supplementary Figure S13

    #1537
    harrison
    Keymaster

    IIRC I made some McFarland standards with medium ODs (i.e. 0.5 or something) and use those as a proxy for cells in media to do the scattering.
    http://www.dalynn.com/dyn/ck_assets/files/tech/TM53.pdf
    Another easy standard-ish solution to make is mixing small amounts of condensed milk with water.

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